A 30-year ACIM student interviews David Hoffmeister about the transition from intellectualism to mysticism. Parables are drawn, experiences are shared in this beautiful journey of the heart. Jump in with the listening and following as all the practical steps lead us into the present moment, into the “I love you” God wants us to hear right now.

Gold Nugget:

“It’s kinda interesting because sometimes people talk in terms of like being in a career or something. Sometimes the women will say, ‘Well, I hit something like a glass ceiling. I was zooming along in my career, then this invisible glass ceiling just was like a lid that I didn’t expect.’ You know, it was like, ‘What is this?’ But I think even on this spiritual journey, there can seem to be this kind of glass ceilings, where the mind kind of slips a bit into, I will call it almost like, a resignation or laziness, because it simply doesn’t know there’s so much more. It surrounds itself with people and things like a cocoon, and it’s kind of like that old Peggy Lee song, ‘Is that all there is, is that all there is? If that’s all there is, then let’s keep dancing.’ (Peggy Lee, ‘Is That All There Is?’) You know it’s almost like, make the best of it, based on what seems to be some kind of a ceiling.

And oftentimes with A Course in Miracles, you know, people don’t really wanna talk about enlightenment, or as Yogananda would call it, self-realization, even though I’d say the Course is packed, absolutely packed with focuses on that. Anyone who’s read the section ‘The Immediacy of Salvation,’ you know, ‘Be not content with future happiness. It has no meaning, and is not your just reward. For you have cause for freedom now.’ T-26.VIII.9:1-3 That’s an amazing sentence. If anybody glosses over that and starts just looking at a lifetime of uncovering the ego, a lifetime of struggle, of fear, of doubt. And if the unveiling of the unconscious mind, which of course we know Carl Jung and many psychologists and psychotherapists and many spiritualities that point out: don’t take the unconscious mind lightly. Certainly Ken would say that as well: don’t take it lightly. But the pierce through into what I call divine providence, where you actually feel you’re being carried, experientially, by the signs and symbols, by the presence underneath that, by the guidance.”

Recorded on November 17, 2022 at La Casa de Milagros in Chapala, Mexico

 

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